[Perfect Set-Up??] The 7 Post Shaker Rig - What's it Mean for Grass Roots Racers?


Our on-line training course, "Get More Grip and Better Balance", is all about finding the spring stiffness, and associated set-up you need, for best grip at the tyres, and then setting the balance you need for understeer/oversteer. 

You can see in the video, the shaker rig forcing vibrations in the suspension.  Best grip comes from minimizing the tyre load variation, minimizing vibration at the tyre contact patch. 

The grip comes having the required "natural suspension frequency".   This is the vibration of the suspension applicable if it is left to it's own devices, with no friction and no damping.  Of course, the system does require shock absorbers for best grip.  But springs are the first priority.  Choose springs - then you decide on shocks.

Suspension frequency is comparable between all road and race cars.  We have developed a scale of suspension stiffness  through experience with 100s of set-ups.  We can show you what suspension frequency will be a good starting point for the baseline set-up of your particular race car.

Where Does Grip Come From?  How Do We Make Grip at the Tyres?

In the video, a rally car is being tested on a 4 post shaker rig. 

In grass roots racing, we cannot afford the cost of testing our own car on a shaker rig.  But by studying the shaker rig procedures, we can build a better understanding of how the race car creates grip.

The posts are hydraulic rams that put forces into the suspension representative of the inputs the car gets from the road surface.  In the "track replay" test in the video, the rams are displacing the suspension as per the  suspension movement recorded on the data logger.

When you see a road car on the shaker rig, you see the body remaining stable and the suspension cycling up and down - the set-up the engineers want for best ride.

In racing, the only objective is to go fast.  One of the main limiting factors is how well the tyres stay in contact with the track surface.  The basic use of the shaker rig is to optimize the springs and shocks to minimize tyre load variations, thereby optimizing the dynamic grip available at the tyres.

For optimum grip - ie least cycling motion of the tyre contact patch up and down, there must be significant motion of the body of the car.  The ride will not be smooth as it was for the road car.

So, we need stiff springs for racing to create grip. 

Here's one big takeaway from looking at what's happening with the shaker rig....

We can relate the cycling of the suspension up and down to a given suspension stiffness that optimizes grip. 

This measure of suspension stiffness we call the "natural suspension frequency". ie the cycling of the suspension in cycles per minute (CPM), resulting from an external disturbance.  We do a simple calculation of suspension frequency, assuming no friction and no damping.  It is one of the most important numbers we have for determining the set-up we want for our race car. 

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“The 7 Post Shaker Rig” is based on an article by Terry Satchel, from Circle Track Magazine Dec 1, 2001.  Terry Satchel, now retired, is a major influencer and expert in the world of vehicle dynamics.  Most significantly for us, he was a contributing author of Chapter 16, “Ride and Roll Rates” in the racer’s bible, “Race Car Vehicle Dynamics” - the mathematics behind the calculations we use in the Racing Car Technology Weight Transfer Worksheet™.  At the time of writing this article, he worked for Ford Motorsport.       ™

The 7 Post Shaker Rig - Finding the Perfect Setup

Here is the link to the original article:
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/seven-post-shaker-rig-suspension-dynamics/

What is a seven-post shaker rig, or the four-post rig for that matter, and why would anyone in grass roots racing be interested?  Will you ever need to use one?  

Since Terry Satchel wrote this article in 2001, the shaker rig has taken over in professional racing – perhaps with many now also placing equal importance on K & C (Kinetic and Compliance) testing.  Keen amateurs with the budget are into it as well.  But the cost and availability keep it largely out of reach as a tool for grassroots racers.

Essentially, the shaker rig can tell you where the best grip is in the set-up by helping you to choose the right spring and shock package, while the K&C test rig can tell you how to find more grip with improved chassis and component stiffness and suspension kinematics.

So to give you a concrete answer, yes, if you’re modern made for purpose race car has come from a manufacturer making a number of vehicles, then 7-post rig testing has formed part of the development task of coming up with the spring and shock recommendations for racing shown in your owner’s manual (or factory bulletins). 

However, at a cost of many thousands of dollars per day to run, it’s unlikely you or I will ever run our cars on a 7-post rig.

The main value for us studying the 7-post rig procedures, is to build a better understanding of how the race car creates grip, so we can choose the right springs and shocks for our older factory race car, or non-factory, non pro racing race cars – open wheeler, sports racing or production-based race car.

This knowledge feeds right to the heart of the key concepts and guidelines for choosing springs and anti-roll bars we give you in our on-line training course, “Get More Grip and Better Balance”.

 Quoting from Terry’s Article….

(paragraphs in quotation marks “…”)



“Dynamics and vibrations are much harder to understand than static forces.
  Ever since man has been building and driving cars, the complex systems of springs and dampers have created a complicated symphony of noises and vibrations.”

“The passenger car industry has been mounting cars on four-post shaker rigs for years, since it allows for more precise evaluations of body and suspension dynamics than running on a road.  The inputs can be simple repetitive vibrations (sine waves), or they can be representations of real roads. While undergoing input from the road, sophisticated dynamic measurement devices provide insight to how the system is working.  Generally, unwanted noises and vibrations entering the passenger compartment are the focus of these investigations.”

“In racing, the only objective is to go fast.  One of the main limiting factors is how well the tires stay in contact with the track surface.  The basic use of the shaker rig is to optimize the springs and shocks to minimize tire load variations, while maintaining reasonable body motion control.”

(In practise at Racing Car Technology, we see “reasonable body motion control” a little differently.  If we optimize grip, we find most times, we have already achieved reasonable body motion control – we don’t have to consider it, as long as we have a reasonable shock on the car.  On the 7 post rig, they can be achieving best grip at the tyres, but find they have insufficient shock for the driver’s preference.)

“You may have seen what happens when a car is running down the highway with a bad or missing shock absorber.  The body is bouncing up and down like a boat on big waves, and the tire may also be hopping up and down, showing daylight on each up cycle.  This is what happens when the system of springs and masses is very under-damped.”

The shock absorbers control the body motions as well as the wheel motions.

“One device (normally a shock absorber) mounted between the chassis and the suspension is asked to control a spring connecting two different masses, each with its own natural frequency.”

“To further complicate the issue, the four corners of the car work independent of each other but are tied together by the body structure.”

“The wheels basically move straight up and down relative to the chassis while the body has several motions relative to the ground. Engineers call these body motions “heave (movement up and down), pitch (forward and back) and roll (side to side).”

“Each of these motions is resisted by the springs (and anti-roll bars in roll only) at the four corners of the car.  Resistance to these motions causes force variations between the tire and the road – the dynamic vertical load on the tyre.”

(Note from Racing Car Technology:  It’s all about choosing the right spring and damper stiffness – the “natural spring frequency” of the suspension.  We are talking here about the “wheel rate”, the spring rate as seen at the wheel centre, the tyre spring rate and the shock rate, or level of damping.  Softer shock rates don’t affect suspension frequency that much.  With stiffer shocks, if you go over the so-called critical damping level, the shocks do slow down the cycling of the suspension and can easily reduce suspension travel in roll and cause balance problems.)

“The trick is to find just the right stiffness.  Too much spring and damper, and the force variation goes up, but too little can do the same thing in the opposite direction.  There has to be a compromise for the correct amount of spring and damping that gives the best load control- least dynamic load variation at the tyre contact patch.”

Then this comment in the article from Terry Satchel:

“Finally, there is one last, but very important, variable to throw into the mix. Driver preferences come into play here in a big way; some drivers like very little body motion, while others don’t mind a car that moves around a little more.”

What Does This Mean for us in Set-Up for Grass Roots Racing?

This is how we see this playing out at Racing Car Technology.  The driver will lose his or her way if trying random adjustments to try and achieve the driver’s preferred body control, as implied by Terry’s comment. 

At least as far as grassroots racing is concerned, we think starting with a known baseline set-up is the key.  There’s no room in our thinking for the driver saying “I’d like the car to move around a bit more”.  If you did soften out the springs and/or shocks from the baseline, in all likelihood, the car would just be slower.

The challenge is to understand from a practical perspective what is important in maintaining best grip at the tyres vs driver preference.

It is not possible for the driver to determine what is best for the set-up just by driving the car.  You have to start with a known baseline set-up and working in planned steps, get the driver to try variations to see what is faster and better suited to the driver.

In practical terms, we start with the spring stiffness we have determined is a good starting point for our application.  Choosing spring rates has been Our Number One set-up priority at Racing Car Technology for nearly 20 years.  Shock selection and tuning comes next.

The Shock Absorbers

We need shocks that have reasonable damping effect.  Very low damping level will kill grip as discussed in Terry’s article.  The car could be dangerous and undriveable. 

But for grass roots racing, once we have a ballpark shock for the spring we have in the car, it is pretty much OK for what we want to do, including moderate spring changes without changing the valving.

We do not need the same precision regarding the shock setting as we do for the spring.

In practise, we find shock valving around critical damping with digressive valving allowing good body control at slow shaft speeds around the 2 inches per second range is all that we need for most grass roots racing.  Often, non-adjustable is better.  (At least you can be confident of the damping you have, compared to adjustable shocks that do not have repeatable shock adjustment in known steps.)

We have the experience with David Stone’s Mazda MX5, where the well-known brand shocks we used at the rear were too stiff, even on their softest setting.  The car was fast.  It could win races.  But we always had a question mark in our minds about the balance - a touch too much oversteer, but we couldn’t get it out by adjusting the anti-roll bars.  What was happening?  It turned out the too stiff rear shocks were restricting the car in roll at the rear, causing the oversteer.  We built our own rear shocks (QA1 Motorsport), achieved the extra travel in the suspension and better balance we needed, and pulled a few tenths out of the lap time.

In general, drivers prefer relatively stiff damping compared to the damping giving least load variation (ie best grip) at the tyres.  Claude Rouelle suggested in a seminar I attended, that drivers may settle for damping around 50% stiffer than indicated by the 7-post rig.  It’s what feels the best to them – what gives the driver greater confidence to push hard. 

However, we have to keep in mind that what feels best to the driver may be giving away grip at the tyres.  The shocks can easily be set too stiff for least load variation (ie best grip) at the tyres, and possibly balance as well, as per our example above.

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With many of our clients gaining seconds improvement in lap time, it’s clear the majority of this improvement is due to the better optimized springs. 

Using the Racing Car Technology Weight Transfer Worksheet™, I will show you how we calculate the current suspension stiffness.  Then, using our measure of suspension stiffness, the suspension frequency, we can say from experience with 100s of set-ups, what suspension stiffness will work.

Suspension frequency in grip terms is comparable between all race and road cars. 

For production car racing, spring frequency required will be way more than after-market sports springs.  After market springs may be 50% stiffer, for instance, while the correct racing spring may be 4 times as stiff as the production springs.

If we have the necessary data logging, and especially expertise in Chassisim vehicle dynamics software, then greater precision in selecting springs and shocks is possible without having to go to the extent of the 7-post rig.  These procedures are beyond the scope of our suspension set-up training at Racing Car Technology.  (We believe the difficulty, cost and time involved in you learning about this could not be justified for grass roots racing.)